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la lesión, *s.*
*injury*
Ese delantero ha tenido una lesión todo el año.
That striker had an injury all year round.
The Spanish Course
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]]>billnot2012-05-17T06:31:41-00:00Re: Convenio especial
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On 9 May 2012, at 22:42, Barbara wrote:
> thats a worry then as I pay into the scheme. We came here 9 years ago and have paid into te scheme for the last couple of years.
> I guess its just a 'wait and see'
> .
It won't affect those who already paying into the system
Regards. Millie
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]]>Millie Munro2012-05-16T21:37:27-00:00Fw: Palabra del 15 de mayo de 2012 - cruzársele los cables a alguien
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cruzársele los cables a alguien, *s.*
*to get one's wires crossed*
Se le cruzaron los cables y lo rompió.
In a moment of blind rage, she broke it.
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The Spanish don't want foreign workers in the first place - they have plenty
of unemployed people themselves.
If they were allowed to, they would refuse work permits to all foreigners
but EU rules don't allow that.
The only immigrants they want are people with a private income like
pensioners.
David
Hi David, I reckon that you have hit the problem right on the head because
after all, what has Spain really got to offer us from the North except,
sunshine and warmth, a very relaxed way of living. Spain acts as a very nice
servicing country for us and is also not to far away, which also appears to
suit the native lifestyle of Spain.
We the pensioners bring them in return some work at a time of the year when
they really need it, of course in the summer time they are often all
enjoying the summer themselves. This is of course the way that this part of
the world is what with the availability of fast and cheap travel coupled
with good pensions.
All these rules, laws or whatever you like to call them have existed and
have been there for a very long time now but are just interpreted or applied
as the need or when it arises.
From what i have seen over here are that many of our so called residents are
really only cold weather visitors.
This of course is only one point of view of the situation.
Adios, Howie.
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]]>howie2012-05-10T10:54:57-00:00Re: Convenio especial
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave and Fleur Razzell [mailto:daveandfleur@tiscali.co.uk]
> Sent: 10 May 2012 11:30
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>
> One has to wonder what effect this will have on property values if foreign
> buyers hear they could be kicked out if they lose their jobs. Would you
> buy a property in a country that could do this?
> Dave
The Spanish don't want foreign workers in the first place - they have plenty
of unemployed people themselves.
If they were allowed to, they would refuse work permits to all foreigners
but EU rules don't allow that.
The only immigrants they want are people with a private income like
pensioners.
David
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]]>David Laskey2012-05-10T10:01:38-00:00Re: Convenio especial
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buyers hear they could be kicked out if they lose their jobs. Would you
buy a property in a country that could do this?
Dave
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]]>david razzell2012-05-10T09:30:30-00:00Re: Convenio especial
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave and Fleur Razzell [mailto:daveandfleur@tiscali.co.uk]
> Sent: 10 May 2012 08:23
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> >
> Do you have a link to this David? I'm surprised something this big
> isn't all over the expat press. Knowing how absolutely accurate you
> always are, I don't doubt it but I can't find a mention of itanywhere.
Hi Dave
See my reply to Mark.
I have seen reports on expat forums already about some offices asking for
the income/health data and other reports saying nothing has changed.
It's pretty clear that "new" residents will have to meet the new
requirements but it isn't clear as to what will happen to people whose old
card has run out and have to apply for the new green form.
Most people who have renewed their old card now have a document giving them
right of permanent residence so I have to assume that they cannot apply the
new rules to them.
That said, nothing would surprise me!
David
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]]>David Laskey2012-05-10T06:44:37-00:00Re: Convenio especial
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark A. Solomon [mailto:markasolomon1@yahoo.co.uk]
> Sent: 09 May 2012 23:52
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>
> ** I have to say I haven't heard of this before and what has appeared on
Spanish
> news has been the application of tougher requirements for non-EU
nationals, no
> mention of any changes applying to EU ones...
Hi Mark
I had only read references in the press to the possibility of the rules
being changed however it seems that the law has been passed and comes into
immediate effect.
This is the relevant law which mainly is concerned about the health service
and prescriptions but lurking at the end is a specific note of the changes
to the residency requirements.
Disposición final quinta. Modificación del Real Decreto 240/2007, de 16 de
febrero, sobre entrada, libre circulación y residencia en España de
ciudadanos de los Estados miembros de la Unión Europea y de otros Estados
parte en el Acuerdo sobre el Espacio Económico Europeo.
David
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]]>David Laskey2012-05-10T06:37:19-00:00Re: Convenio especial
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wrote:
> On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 9:26 PM, David Laskey wrote:
>> The government have just passed a new law that changes the requirements for
>> residency in Spain.
>>
>> As before, after 90 days in Spain as a tourist you are obliged to sign on
>> the register of foreigners. Until now that was a formality and all you had
>> to produce was your passport.
>>
>> Now, to remain in Spain after 90 days, you have to prove that you have
>> sufficient income not to become a burden on the state and also have private
>> health insurance unless you are working legally and paying into the system
>> or are a UK pensioner with reciprocal health care arrangements provided when
>> you submit a form E121/S1 from the DWP in the UK.
>>
>> How it will apply to people who have already registered without this
>> information remains to be seen.
>>
>> Before anyone says that they can't do that - they can - EU residency law
>> allows that and always did - Spain chose not to impose those eligibility
>> requirements, now they have realised that it is costing them loads of money
>> and they have changed the rules.
>
Do you have a link to this David? I'm surprised something this big
isn't all over the expat press. Knowing how absolutely accurate you
always are, I don't doubt it but I can't find a mention of itanywhere.
thats a worry then as I pay into the scheme. We came here 9 years ago and have paid into te scheme for the last couple of years.
I guess its just a 'wait and see'
.
***I wouldn't be surprised if this scheme were scrapped as I cannot imagine the take-up has been all that great and it has not been well publised either.... or they might raise the price to economic levels.... who knows!
MARK
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]]>markasolomon12012-05-09T21:55:30-00:00Re: Convenio especial
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The government have just passed a new law that changes the requirements for
residency in Spain.
As before, after 90 days in Spain as a tourist you are obliged to sign on
the register of foreigners. Until now that was a formality and all you had
to produce was your passport.
Now, to remain in Spain after 90 days, you have to prove that you have
sufficient income not to become a burden on the state and also have private
health insurance unless you are working legally and paying into the system
or are a UK pensioner with reciprocal health care arrangements provided when
you submit a form E121/S1 from the DWP in the UK.
How it will apply to people who have already registered without this
information remains to be seen.
Before anyone says that they can't do that - they can - EU residency law
allows that and always did - Spain chose not to impose those eligibility
requirements, now they have realised that it is costing them loads of money
and they have changed the rules.
David
** I have to say I haven't heard of this before and what has appeared on Spanish news has been the application of tougher requirements for non-EU nationals, no mention of any changes applying to EU ones...
What has been noticable is that there have been several mentions of foreigners abusing the health service/health tourism - in previous years when this was talked about it was always mentioned in an East European or Arab context..... the last time I saw a piece about this subject done recently is was in a hospital in Alicante province and it was made clear that they would be cracking down in particular on the British abusing the EHIC or finding a way to cheat residency qualification in order to get treatment for conditions that are not emergencies but which the inadequate NHS either didn't offer treatment or had a long wait. They said Spain will not refuse to treat anyone but they will be presented with a bill in future if they are not fully compliant with the letter of the law.....
MARK
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]]>markasolomon12012-05-09T21:51:33-00:00Re: Convenio especial
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I guess its just a 'wait and see'
]]>Barbara2012-05-09T20:42:33-00:00Re: Convenio especial
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Barbara [mailto:casitarosa@hotmail.com]
> Sent: 09 May 2012 21:04
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> Subject: [Costablancaexpats] Convenio especial
>
> I hsve heard that the spanish govnt are changing their health system and
that the
> current 'Insurance' system run by the Valencian Communidad might be
stopping?
> Does anyone know any more on this?.
Bearing in mind that Valencia has run out of money and their bonds are a
worse investment than Greek bonds it would seem quite likely.
The government have just passed a new law that changes the requirements for
residency in Spain.
As before, after 90 days in Spain as a tourist you are obliged to sign on
the register of foreigners. Until now that was a formality and all you had
to produce was your passport.
Now, to remain in Spain after 90 days, you have to prove that you have
sufficient income not to become a burden on the state and also have private
health insurance unless you are working legally and paying into the system
or are a UK pensioner with reciprocal health care arrangements provided when
you submit a form E121/S1 from the DWP in the UK.
How it will apply to people who have already registered without this
information remains to be seen.
Before anyone says that they can't do that - they can - EU residency law
allows that and always did - Spain chose not to impose those eligibility
requirements, now they have realised that it is costing them loads of money
and they have changed the rules.